Daniel Does DFW Theater

Middle-Aged Women, Anxiety Over Talking, & A Little Drunk (with Cara Statham Serber)

Daniel Hernandez / Cara Statham Serber Season 1 Episode 11

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What happens when stage mishaps turn into unforgettable theater moments? Join us for an unforgettable episode as we sit down with the phenomenal Cara Statham Serber, to share hilarious backstage stories and explore the vibrant Dallas-Fort Worth theater scene. You'll hear delightful anecdotes involving fellow local talents like Mary Grim and Megan Kelly Bates, along with Cara’s memorable role as Lin in Trailer Park. From the joy of performing to the chaos of unexpected blunders, Cara brings us into the heart of the DFW theater community with humor and charm.

Ever wondered what it’s like to understudy for a powerhouse like Angela Turner Wilson? We dive into the exhilarating highs and nerve-wracking lows of stepping in for other performers, with Cara providing a window into the world of auditions, early theater passions, and unforgettable stage mishaps. Listen as we reminisce about our own performances, imagine dream roles, and share personal stories that highlight the passion and determination required for a career in theater. 

Cara doesn't hold back as she recounts her breakthrough in the DFW theater world, from her breakout role in "Down South" with Uptown Players to securing a commercial agent. You'll be entertained by tales of emotional performances, roller-skating incidents, and the incredible camaraderie within the DFW acting community. We wrap up with a light-hearted game, blending laughter and heartfelt reflections on the journey of an actor. This episode is packed with humor, inspiration, and a touch of nostalgia, making it a must-listen for theater enthusiasts and dreamers alike.

If you want to catch all the action, you can watch the full episode video at YouTube.com/@DanielDoesDFW. Follow us on Instagram and Tik Tok: @DanielDoesDFW

Theater Talk

Speaker 1

Hi guys and welcome back to Daniel Does DFW Theater, where we talk about everything theater. I am your host, daniel Hernandez. Today we have an amazing guest with us. I know I say it every single week, but I kind of mean it this week. I know I really mean it this week. Uh, someone that I have just like started making contact with because they are freaking amazing, or should I say fucking amazing. Oh, I know they were nervous we do get to swear.

Speaker 1

they were nervous about swearing on the show and I'm leading with the f-bomb so children change the channel, but no so excited. I've seen this person on stage multiple times and finally had the courage to talk to them after one show, and they are amazing. So please help me welcome my guest for this episode, Kara Server, Full name.

Speaker 3

Kara Statum, server Statum for us, that is the equity name lovely, great, and pronouns he, she, I'm old okay, I'm old, she her, but I saw that I was thinking the her. But I said he buckle up, kids, we're in for a bumpy ride, all right check a lot of poo bear.

Speaker 1

Here we go, okay, piglet oh you obviously haven't seen 16 candles.

Speaker 3

Are you tigger, oh?

Speaker 1

okay, check a lot of poo there oh, I have okay, it's just been a really long time and I think I was eight. I'm just just be prepared. This whole episode is gonna be that.

Speaker 3

Um, no, okay, so pronouncer she heard right good it's a good choice.

Speaker 1

I'm just kidding. Just be prepared. This whole episode is going to be that.

Speaker 3

No, okay, so pronouns are she her right? Good, it's a good choice.

Speaker 1

Amanda's great at picking out our guess. It should have been right before that. I love it. Go at home. When she said should we get Boone's Farm?

Speaker 3

Yes, I think we're the same age. Yes, we're the same age. Yes Is yes, I think we're the same age.

Speaker 1

Yes, yes, is there a bad answer there?

Speaker 3

It's like do they have?

Speaker 1

MD 2020? No Great, I love me some peach schnapps. I'm going to have to drink some of that tonight after this episode. So let's talk about Kara for a little bit. I want to backtrack. Just, I saw you in where I got the courage to talk to you, because I've seen you in multiple things, but it was after Trailer Park, because I went to see Mary Grimm. Well, mary Grimm gave tickets for me and my mom because my mom is her number one fan.

Speaker 2

I love Mary.

Speaker 1

Grimm. Yeah, everybody loves Mary Grimm. Right, she probably doesn't even watch this, but we love you, mary.

Speaker 3

Grimm, we love you and you're the best singer in Dallas yeah, I mean valid.

Speaker 1

I think your children watch this more than you do, rose is constantly liking stuff.

Speaker 3

Max, please tell your mom she's the best singer in Dallas yeah, I think Hans even watches this.

Speaker 1

Hi, hans. So the whole family Maddie just love her. Yeah, julia, julia Roberts, grimm, their dog.

Speaker 3

I don't know.

Speaker 1

Julia Roberts, grimm, her name is Jules, but I named her Julia Roberts Grimm. I'd like to meet her. She's great, but no, I went to see Mary Grimm in Trailer Park at Lyric Stage, and you were in your 45th turn as Lynn.

Speaker 3

I think it was 8th. I think it was 8th. Ih, I think it was eighth. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I mean I could count them, but that wouldn't be interesting. But I think it's about eighth.

Speaker 1

I mean you really do just shine in that role, though I think it's that's one of the We've talked about it with multiple guests, like that's the role that you would do for the rest of your life it.

Speaker 3

It's just complete trash, which I actually am, and it's screen singing, which I'm not, but then nobody cares if you're doing it well or not in that show, and stupid costumes and stupid fun and lots of f-bombs so, yeah, no, the hair, the hair and the black tattoo that all started at the water tower production.

Speaker 3

They used to do a thing called out of the loop at Water Tower. It was kind of like their fringe festival and the first time we did it we did it there and they added the gap. And then I started crimping my hair because you can still buy crimpers. I mean, I was alive when you actually did crimp your hair. Now you just do it in that part of Florida and I would just I do still like jack it up and all this and I did. The first time I did the show was with Patty Breckenridge, who's also. You need to have her on. Oh, she's amazing, patty. Oh, come on Patty. But one day she walked up to me backstage and she held my hair and she goes your hair makes me thirsty Because it just looks so dry and crunchy and so great.

Speaker 1

No, and you have it down pat. Like I love it every, like you gave everything actually that whole cast.

Speaker 3

Oh so great. I love pam, sweet pam pam is amazing.

Speaker 1

Pam and esteban are like the powerhouse couple. They are angels.

Speaker 3

Yes, they are really angels and, uh, I'm doing big fish with them oh yes, that's right, she told me, yes, yes I love them and esteban's in the company now at the theater center, love it.

Speaker 1

Uh, so just wonderful. But yeah, I love pam. And then I mean, I know megan was part of the production team as well and uh, oh, uh b was in it.

Speaker 3

Can I say at this point in the interview, anxiety makes me forget everyone's names, so it will seem like I don't care, I'm just. I like they go away. Like Megan Kelly Bates. When you just said Megan was in there, she is truly one of my best friends in the world. And when you said Megan, I was like, oh God, who's Megan? I mean, I'm sure she so just can.

Speaker 2

I just say that now that any show?

Speaker 3

we talk about that. I'm in if I say, oh so, and so is in that, and I can't remember. It's not that I'm an ass. I mean, I am an asshole, but I'm not that kind of asshole it's just anxiety, asshole um drink every time Kara curses on the episode.

Speaker 1

That's today's drinking game.

Speaker 2

Get that bottle over there.

Speaker 3

Asshole, asshole. What about when we say fuck, I won the interview, literally, we don't even need to continue.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and this is the end Thank you. Thanks so much, thanks so much. Yeah, and don't forget about Florence, was in that show too.

Speaker 3

Now you're making me laugh For just a second, I was like and Louie, louie.

Speaker 1

Well, that's what Greg Holland goes by now is Louie. Oh well darn. No, I'm kidding, but such a great cast, alina.

Speaker 3

Alina shut up. I've never met Alina before that.

Speaker 1

We did nonsense together Me, her, Mary Grimm and Megan Kelly Bates, Rachel Poole, Christine Fiala at Irving.

Speaker 3

You are making that up. That did not happen, I swear.

Speaker 1

I was in that production.

Speaker 2

What year?

Speaker 1

It was post-COVID, so 2021?.

Speaker 3

We were all still in a haze. Were you wearing masks?

Speaker 1

I think we had to have masks in rehearsal. Still in a haze, were you wearing masks? Uh, I think we had to have masks in rehearsal In rehearsal, but you didn't have to on stage.

Speaker 3

Yeah, no.

Speaker 1

And I was called in as a cover swing for any of I had to learn all of their tracks.

Speaker 3

That is amazing, I had no idea.

Speaker 1

Yeah, michael Sorakia asked me if I would cover because of COVID and he's like we don't know if somebody and I was prepared to cover for everyone except for Mary.

Speaker 3

I was like, was she the mother Abbess or whatever? No, no, no Uh.

Speaker 1

Megan Kelly dates was mother superior. Uh, Mary played. Uh, the one who can remember stuff, Sister amnesia.

Speaker 3

Yes, you.

Speaker 1

Mary played sister yeah. Um, and so I that's the only, because she has an operatic, like when she does the the puppet and her. She switches back and forth and I was like Mary, you cannot be out can I do a quick story?

Speaker 3

yeah, go for it. So no, this is not. This is it, kara? Shut up, stop talking.

Speaker 1

I'm trying to do my agenda here.

Speaker 3

I have points to hit okay, so I did the sound of music at the theater center, which was good.

Speaker 1

So then, the other thing that I want, that wasn't your story shut up.

Musical Theater Memories and Dreams

Speaker 3

Here's more of it. It's gonna. It's so interesting you're just not gonna know what to do. So that was the ninth time I did the sound of music. Um, first time I played sister margaretta. Okay, I was understudying angela turner wilson, who is now the head of the fort worth opera she has performed across the world with.

Speaker 2

I mean, I can't see here I'm like I can't even remember all the she's phenomenal.

Speaker 3

Okay, first time she'd ever worn a microphone because you don't put a microphone on that woman. I mean, she is a goddess and I had to understudy her and like she needed me she never needed me, but like I knew it and I could have done it, but I would tell her. I'm like okay, I need you to feel secure that I do know the role, I can sing it. However, if you get sick, you just need to visualize me diving into I-35 because no one wants to see me do that. Angela was perfect, so that kind of tied into what you said. No, exactly Right, that's exactly what I told Mary.

Speaker 1

I was like you know, but on the flip side when I was under studying sorry, ryan, michael Friedman, and probably I was like you can get sick.

Speaker 2

I got this. I got this. I got this.

Speaker 3

He did it once and I was like ah, and you went on, yeah, I went on, yay, so I can add that to my list. That is such an amazing thing coming out of COVID is, first of all, that we have understudies, because we've never had understudies before understudies before ever and a skill that people are showing like that's a really incredible thing, to show that you're that reliable, that you're that talented that you can cover that. I mean, that's scarier than anything I've ever had to do you learning all those roles it was wild with tap.

Speaker 1

No, what with tap? That sounds terrible. And megan was like do you tap? And I was like sure, I guess, I do now Teach me Megan. Like in my mouth I was like, yeah, like can I get a little finger? Megan would love that actually.

Speaker 3

She would have been like yes, that's what we're doing.

Speaker 1

Cracked me up, so yeah, so that's the first time I had ever worked with Alina and her is just, I mean, and Santa Padilla, standing on the rooftop shouting her lungs out in that one, they're just number.

Speaker 3

I could not believe it and then there was little Ben Ashcraft who played the little, my little psycho crazy kid, and he was perfect yeah, I was honestly scared of him he's insane I thought I was gonna get run over he would come off stage with this testosterone. That was like because he was so amped up, because he was so funny and the audience loved him and I thought he could, like, pull that out of the wall.

Speaker 1

He was just so amped, he was really huffing those markers. He really was so good, goodness. Okay so um tell me how Kara started.

Speaker 3

I started in Wichita, kansas, wichita, and um, I lived down the street from the artistic director of music theater of Wichita, which is actually a really great regional house where lots of kids in college go and like from OCU and Michigan and do their summers there. And when I was six I was the littlest workhouse boy in Oliver and then after that it was psychotic, like that's all I wanted to do and we had an art section called Lively Arts and every Sunday I'd open it up and be like what can I audition for? And then I'd go and I wouldn't get something and I'd cry and my mom would be like we're done, we're not doing this anymore. And then the next Sunday I was like uh-huh, so do it, and I'm going back here, and so it's just kind of all I did. I did it all through grade school, junior high, high school.

Speaker 2

Wow.

Speaker 1

I love that so much where you just got bit by the bug Totally and had to keep doing it. I didn't know how not to do it Well and I think at that age you can put up with more like rejection and just move on from it, whereas you know at our age, we get one rejection and then we want to audition for another year.

Speaker 3

Everyone hates me. I'm terrible.

Speaker 1

Yeah, so we should take a lesson from young Kara and just open up the Living Arts page every week. And I always wanted to be.

Speaker 3

Annie and I was never Annie, Like I'm not an Annie.

Speaker 1

We can do it now.

Speaker 3

Can we do it now? Yeah, I just did it, not just I. Yeah, I just did it, not just I pretend like COVID didn't happen 2019. I did it at Casa and I fell down the stairs. That's a story I didn't put in there.

Speaker 2

I did I think.

Speaker 3

I know this story should I tell it super fast, I don't know. I was wearing palazzo pants and five, four inch heels.

Speaker 3

That way was still in the round was not in the round, um, but my heel got caught in the palazzo pants and I had like five steps left to go down to. So we're going to NYC. So I'm like I've got my coat and I'm hopping down the stairs and my heel got caught and I barrel rolled down four steps. My heel came off and Annie and daddy Warbucks were just and I was like fuck this, we are go. I like put my heel on. I was like NYC, let's go. That did not happen. And then afterwards my mom was there and she's like honey, no one saw. I was like mom, there are 1500 seats there, everyone saw. So anyway, I play Grace, not Annie.

Speaker 1

Well, here's the thing. I urge you, DFW, to cast Kira.

Speaker 3

Silver, God don't no, stop Cut.

Speaker 1

And I will be playing the role of Sandy. I was thinking what's her name? Rooster's girlfriend, what's her name?

Speaker 3

Lily St.

Speaker 1

Regis. I will be Lily St Regis, okay.

Speaker 3

Then I'll be Miss Hannigan with you. Oh, that would be fun.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I would love to. I think Rooster would be a fun role one day. Oh, absolutely yeah. But I would love to play, but Annie's just so like nobody wants to do it because it's so many children.

Speaker 3

I don't ever want to see it again.

Speaker 2

I think I've done it. It's just so many children, because I did play every other orphan, just not Annie, as a kid. I could see it was a pepper.

Breaking Into Dallas Theater World

Speaker 3

Yeah, not quite mean enough. Enough now, I wasn't enough really yeah.

Speaker 1

And then, uh, what started you in dfw? What was the like start? What was your breakout role in dfw?

Speaker 3

it was at down, it was at uptown players and it was called down south and um, this was in 2003 and I auditioned. I moved here in 2000, okay, and auditioned for three years and couldn't get a call back. I remember I did get a call back for the Sound of Music at Casa. I didn't get it and then went to this audition at Uptown and it was a newish script and it was filthy like filthy your type of stuff.

Speaker 3

And I present as conservative Baptist but I'm not any of those things. And so after I got the role, craig lynch called me and he's like have you read the script? Because this is filthy. And I was like I have read it and let's fucking go, yeah. So, um, that was it. And then I, it was like it just took one, two, because I was equity when I came here, because I took my card when I was still traveling doing theater in my twenties and it's hard to break. I mean, it's hard to break in anyway, and then with equity, that makes it even harder. But I think once I had shown once that I knew what I was doing, then I started to get cast other places and I got my commercial agent from that show as well, somebody that came to see the show, and that was it to see the show and that was it, 2003, lovely.

Miss Baltimore Crabs

Speaker 1

So, um, actually we're going to cut to a segment here, okay, um, speaking of dirty um, because I do want you and auditioning is where I want to go with this next um, so I want to do your little audition cut and something super dirty, okay, and you know, maybe talk about, you know some dirty things. So find out as we head over to the piano and finding, uh, find out if Kara can sing. All right, thanks, see you there. Have you had crabs before? Did?

Speaker 3

you know this was that kind of interview.

Speaker 1

I mean, it's an anything. I mean anything goes been on several medications, I mean.

Speaker 3

I just, I mean.

Speaker 2

I've been on several medications. I mean I just had to get the shot in my butt.

Speaker 3

I mean are we talking past tense.

Speaker 1

Oh goodness, no, I'm crying, no, okay.

Speaker 3

Not that there's anything wrong with that. There is nothing wrong with it.

Speaker 1

That is your life and you can live it however you want.

Speaker 3

And sometimes it just happens, it's not even like you, just whatevs.

Speaker 1

Yeah, exactly, yeah, stop it Okay. Yeah, stop it. Okay, so have you played this role before I?

Speaker 3

have. I've played it twice. I played it at Casa Manana in 2011. Okay, oh, I did have two babies then. There you go. And then I did it at the Winspear with the Theater Center in 2017?.

Speaker 2

Okay, I think Okay cool 18.

Speaker 1

Okay. You don't care I do no, he doesn't, he doesn't care.

Speaker 3

I don't really, but I think it was later than that.

Speaker 1

We're gonna fact check you and it's gonna be right here about whether or not it was those years, nobody cares. And we actually have the pictures from those productions. No, I'm just kidding, we might not. Why, amanda, actually have the pictures from those productions? No, I'm just kidding, we might not. Amanda, my producer will be searching for those later on today. No but yeah, so tell them what you're singing.

Speaker 3

So I'm singing the end of Baltimore Crabs, which I will pull out if I have to do like a quick up-tempo callback or a first audition.

Speaker 1

Yeah, so can you slate for us?

Speaker 2

You've never had to sleep before in your life.

Speaker 1

Have you well this is.

Speaker 3

This is why because I'm old, because we didn't grow up slaving, we didn't grow up videoing. So like you walked into a room and introduced yourself and then sometimes they'd say what are you singing today? And you'd say and then sometimes you just started singing this whole slate thing. I mean I slayed for commercial, I didn't.

Speaker 1

You're like, just shut up, carrot those words do not come out of my mouth, my eyes may say it.

Speaker 3

So where am I slating? We have to. Uh, why don't you go to your camera right there? Hi see, I don't even know if I could use my full equity name when I slate, because if I'm slating for commercials, I would say Kara Server. I guess equity name, I would say Kara Statum Server. Look at this face. I know right now we're going Hi, I'm Kara Statum Server and I will be singing a cut from Miss Baltimore Crabbs, baltimore Crabs. And so, my dear, so short and stout, you'll never be in. So we're kicking you out With your phone in your face. Well, it isn't your fault, you're just caught with a case of Miss Baltimore Crabs. Tempor CRABZ, zuh Zuh, zuh-zuh-zuh.

Speaker 2

Cha-cha-cha. Yeah, I was like and we're back, hi guys, hey.

Speaker 3

Um, we're just checking for crabs.

Speaker 1

Special skill Um, Kara is gonna put this on her resume.

Speaker 3

I'm gonna continue to work, I'll take one for you. I can't do it.

Speaker 1

I'm gonna continue to work. No, um, so great uh, you can sing.

Speaker 3

I mean, I am a uh, I'm a serviceable singer like I in my head. I was like like I don't, oh, I don't oh. There it is Just to get it lingered. Boom, got it. I know that I like I am very okay with where I fall into things. Like I know that I am not Mary Grimm, I know that there are people with extraordinary voices in town and I have a good voice, but I bring other things to the table, so I'm really okay with that. I mean, I'm fine.

Speaker 1

Yeah, no, I think that. So I did not get a chance, and I'm going to talk about the show in just a little bit, but I didn't get a chance to see you in next to normal, which I heard was phenomenal. I mean, you extended everything right, Didn't y'all move to another venue as well?

Speaker 3

That was part of it. I mean, we knew we were going to do that, but yes, we went to another venue, just so great.

Speaker 1

But I mean the stuff that I have seen you in. Like I saw you in the Christmas show and you really didn't have any big feature features. Like you had a tiny little song, yeah, Remember.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's super simple.

Speaker 1

Nothing really big. And then as a Lynn yeah, you're not really singing, singing.

Speaker 3

In my 20s when I did all ingenue roles, then I was singing. I mean, that's where my training was was in just lyric soprano singing. Then I moved to Dallas and in my 30s everyone wanted me to be funny and belt and I'm not a belter, but I just kind of bullshit my way through stuff.

Speaker 1

No, you can do it, but that's actually so much more fun.

Speaker 3

You just belted out crabs, I mean, you know it's fine, it's like but I just I know that I never want to take away from someone like Mary, or I mean I can name five other women who are Go ahead. No, you know, I don't know. You said you can name, I can see their faces. Did y'all hear it?

Speaker 1

She here, I'll just I can name five.

Speaker 3

Come back to me in ten minutes when you're not looking at me, and then I'll be able to remember. But, no, the terrible thing, but there are extraordinary singers in town who are so well-trained. I mean, my degree is in theater with an emphasis in music. It's not, I don't have a music degree, but I'm super comfortable with that.

Speaker 1

Like I'm not being like, oh, I'm terrible, I'm just, I'm fine with what it is. Yeah, no, it's just funny to me that. It's just funny to me that, yeah, no, because you, shannon, was the same exact way, right when she's. Like I don't sing, but I've heard Shannon sing as well. Yes, she sings.

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 1

Yes, and I'm like y'all are singers.

Speaker 3

I mean I would, if someone asked me, I would say yes, I'm a singer. I would say that With qualifications.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's like me saying I'm a mover.

Speaker 3

I would not say that about myself.

Speaker 2

No, well, yes, I'm a mover, I'm a poser.

Speaker 3

In both ways. Poser, and like Megan Kelly Bates and Paula Moreland, may she rest in peace. Who just passed said that I am an extraordinary beveler and I can move as if I am a dancer. I'm not Just put really pretty people around me dancing and that's it.

Speaker 1

I'm really good at beveling too, yeah, so much so I was yelled at to stop because I was playing a straight man.

Speaker 3

Oh, take the note, not take the note.

Speaker 1

Goodness, I did take the note.

Speaker 3

Who gave the note? Steve Morris, okay, from Steve. That's funny. Could Steve take the note?

Speaker 1

Definitely not I think I was going to kick up his leg when he kissed the girl Can can.

Emotional Rollercoaster of Musical Theater

Speaker 1

No, because I was playing Dwayne in 9 to 5. And we were like center stage, me and the dolly what is her name? Dora Lee, and like we turned to each other and of course, my leg just beveled. It just beveled and like literally stops rehearsal and he's like you're straight, don't bevel. Literally stops her hair and he's like you're straight, don't bevel. Okay, I respect your style. All right, thank you so much. Thanks, I will remember not to bevel anymore. No, um, but back to uh, next to normal. Tell me your process, because that is such a difficult I can't imagine doing it. I mean, let alone for what? Three weeks or four weeks, that y'all did it.

Speaker 3

We ran it four and then another week after that.

Speaker 1

But imagine doing that every single night.

Speaker 3

It was really uh, cathartic in an almost easy way, okay, um, my, my life history kind of lends itself. My daughter had stage four cancer. She's fine now, she's getting ready to go to college, like we made it through that. But it makes a lot of those types of emotions super accessible, okay, um, because even when you're past that stuff it's I always say, it's just like sitting just under, it's like on that second layer of skin, because you can go back to that moment at any time. And so I always said, you know, just barely touch it and it's there, and so, and the cast was incredible and, um, we did it in at theater three, which is a really intimate setting, so, like when Uptown Player did it, patty Breckenridge played it and Patty has a huge voice and so it was like the broadway show. It was like a rock version of it was perfect.

Speaker 3

I have a smaller voice and I'm more of like a storyteller, storyteller, singer like I'm. I'm doing it as a, not that everybody has to do that, but that's like how I take on. A song is it's a monologue and um, it was almost claustrophobic for the people in the audience because it was like they were looking down into our house but couldn't leave, and so people who saw both productions because I loved that production said it was so different because we just handled it in such different ways. I loved it. I could have done it forever. Really, it was amazing. I doubt I'll ever get to do it again, but I would do it in a heartbeat no, there are just so many roles like that that I mean your dream role, right?

Speaker 3

Did I say it? Yeah, okay, it's Heidi in Dear Evan Hansen, the mom I have to give the qualification of again 10 women in town who it's also their dream role. So like we have a lot of good people in this town that can play it, but I'd like to throw my name in if it ever comes here.

Speaker 1

Yeah, no, I think that still is just the emotional rollercoaster of that role, and that song at the end is just and as a mom of a teenager two teenagers again, that's also accessible because we're living it every day.

Speaker 3

Everything she says in that song is what we live through with our kids, whether they've gone through something that traumatic or not. It's all kind of easy to hit. I just remember that was just such an emotional moment.

Speaker 1

Well, I mean, don't get me wrong, that act one closer he will be found as just. I hate that they put it there too, because the lights come up and everybody's just sobbing.

Speaker 3

Yes, I saw it twice. I went the first time. I bought my ticket and a week before Ben announced that he was going to be on vacation, I was like, but I did get to see Rachel Bay Jones. Then I sold a couple organs and went back his closing week and saw him because he's, he's unbelievable, yeah, unbelievable.

Speaker 1

So great, I just but that role is just so much.

Speaker 3

And then I, I remember specifically, like hearing her song was just the second moment in the show and she's one of those actors that makes me feel okay about the way I approach things, because she doesn't sound pretty in that song on Broadway.

Speaker 3

She sounds beautiful on the recording, in the studio, but on stage she's just feeling it and that's what I, as an actor and as a an audience member, I want to feel it. If it's the prettiest notes in the world, I don't care, I want to, and she just, oh, she just rips your heart out and it's not pretty.

Speaker 1

I think they've said multiple times that like that whole cast like does therapy and stuff like that, because they have to write for what they really dig into in that I can't. Imagine exactly, um, and then you've already closed this show by the time that we've released this in July. But another role. That is just funny. You really do all these hard hitting roles, but Malin.

Speaker 3

Yeah, which I had. Steve had asked Shannon and I to do the show. We didn't know who would be doing Malin and who would be doing Truby, and my first thought was people have seen me cry this year Like, let's see, let's see Shannon cry. But Steve, because of Next to Normal he said this on Theater Arlington's Facebook live because of that he wanted me to do Malin. And it's that same kind of thing.

Speaker 3

It's very accessible to me because being with your daughter in the hospital and hearing the beeps and all of that like, and my um, my dad died during the run of steel magnolias and we sat with him the day that he died and it was, um, just very accessible. In fact, in our run my dad passed, shannon's mom passed and olivia's grandmother passed, all in one week. And so we're like don't sit on this side of the dressing room because things don't go well, but it's made it super emotional, but in the best way, like it doesn't feel overwhelming or anything like that. And then it was also a challenge because I grew up on the movie and I know every line of it and no one wants to see someone do a bad impersonation of Sally Field, and so I just kind of had to forget that I'd seen any of that, and just because that is iconic, I mean it really is.

Speaker 3

Everybody knows that speech and every I mean, and she throws her little Sally Field things into it that aren't in the actual monologue, and so it's like you almost have to make the decision that it's not going to have anything to do with what I'm doing. I have to go this way with it, and it turned out pretty well. I mean, it was a good experience, and getting to be with Shannon was. I'll do anything with Shannon.

Speaker 1

No, I had heard from Maria. She's like this cast has been through it. She's like this cast has been through it. She's like it really has been. You know, but it she goes. Unfortunately, it also makes for a really good show. She's like it's really heightens everybody's.

Speaker 3

You know everybody. Really, you can feel the care for each other like we. There's a lot of hand holding and touching each other and it feels very genuine. There's nothing put upon, like we all just really care for each other, and it feels very supported.

Speaker 1

Oh, that makes my heart so happy. Yeah, just, and that's the kind of show that you can do that in, absolutely right.

Speaker 3

I mean, you can do it in the comedy shows too, because you find the laughter in that right, and so but it is so genuine and the what you just said is true as well, like the laughter, is very genuine as well. It feels it doesn't feel put upon in any way.

Speaker 1

I love that and you have such a wonderful, or had such a wonderful cast. I know we're recording this as you're doing the show right now, but I mean, I love Myesha as well.

Speaker 3

I didn't know her before this. She's wonderful so great. Camry is new. It's her second show that she's ever done. Cheryl is a Theater Arlington institution. I think she did the second show that Theater Arlington ever did.

Speaker 1

I know she was on Breaking Bad.

Speaker 3

And I think she had a cable. I think she said it was a cable access show For like 13 years in Theater Arlington In Arlington, cable access? Well, we'll have to ask her. She said it was mostly cooking shows, naked cooking. Let's ask Cheryll.

Speaker 1

Cheryl, come on hop on put in the comments, cheryl, if you were naked while cooking, no, um, okay. So, um, speaking of getting naked, are you ready to get naked? Oh shit, it's about bedtime, so we're going to move on to your full song that you're going to sing for us, okay, and I'm going to sit down at the piano and hopefully play it correctly.

Speaker 3

Okay, why am I singing it? Because, because no one would ever have me sing this song now, so that's why I'm singing it again.

Goodnight My Someone

Speaker 1

We're going to find out because you might, after you hear it. We'll see. You know, I think you could still play this well, seven did yeah I'm a little older than seven not a lot

Speaker 2

y'all are the same age.

Speaker 1

What is this much? Maybe like a year and a half, okay, five, oh no, I think we're in the same decade okay, then that's fair. Yeah, no, I think we're in the same decade. Okay, then that's fair. You're right? Yeah, no, I think this song is beautiful, no matter who sings it, and I know that you will sing it beautifully, thank you.

Speaker 3

I played it in high school a couple times and then I played it in Grown.

Speaker 1

Up.

Speaker 3

World a couple times. A couple times, yeah, a theater in Indianapolis when I was 20-something and then I played at a water tower, oh, wow, and sometimes I don't remember dates, but I think I had two kids. Then that's when I gauge everything, like how many kids I had.

Speaker 1

I think I had two babies then that's how I gauge everything too Really yeah by how many kids you have no, okay, so tell the people what you're singing today.

Speaker 3

So so tell the people what you're singing today. So I'm singing Goodnight. My Someone Pretend that I am 22.

Speaker 2

A lot of pretending I don't know.

Speaker 3

Goodnight, my someone good night my love Sleep tight my someone sleep tight, my love.

Speaker 2

Our star is shining its brightest light. For good night, my love for good night my someone.

Speaker 3

Good night. I don't breathe at the end, that's fine. I don't sing it anymore, it's fine.

Speaker 1

I mean, they're already asleep at that point.

Speaker 3

Exactly, it's the bathroom song. All my 20s ingenues. You see the people stand up and go to the bathroom while you're singing. So you really, as long as you get the beginning, well, they might not be back at the end.

Speaker 1

I mean, so hopefully y'all are still watching the podcast If you're in the bathroom now's your chance to come back, and we're about to get back Ballad's over. See you back at the couch, hey guys. So hopefully you're back from the bathroom. If not, please make your way to your seats. Or maybe you took your headphones into the bathroom with you. Sometimes I do that because why?

Speaker 2

Take your headphones into.

Speaker 1

So I don't have to hear the noise when you're in a theater. Oh, I meant to the bathroom, just in general. Yeah, oh, um, I'm gonna get you with this. Um, I hope that while you were in the bathroom if you did have to go number two that you used Poopery and saw the commercial featuring our very own KRS server that we're going to show right here. Here's a picture.

Speaker 2

Yay.

Speaker 1

How Words hold on really quickly Okay words, I get it. Did it pay really well.

Speaker 3

Not well enough.

Speaker 1

No.

Speaker 3

I mean it was fine, it was not. It wasn't like it was super low day rate, Okay okay, but for the usage that it got and how it will be. The only thing anyone really ever remembers about me is that I was in this Poo-Pourri commercial. I feel like I should have been paid a little bit more, but Do you still see it out there?

Speaker 1

sometimes it shows on like banner ads ads or access exactly and cheryl um, but it will.

Speaker 3

People will just send it to you. Do you remember when um biden won and um, everybody did the bernie in the chair? Yes, then megan kelly bates did my poopery ad with bernie in the chair next to it, Like it just keeps coming up, so it's fine. There's worse things.

Speaker 1

Are there any other commercials that you've done or anything else that we would know you from?

Speaker 3

Not that you'd know me from, but like I did, Barney, I did Did you do Barney as well.

Speaker 1

I did. I didn't know that, like I knew Shannon did it, but I didn't know you were a Barney person as well.

Speaker 3

Oh yeah, I sing with Barney and push around a little baby cart that didn't have a baby in it, but we pretended it did. Barney passed out on the set that day we had to hold because he passed out and we had to wait three hours for him to go. They don't want any of the kids to know that he's not really a dinosaur, so you have to clear the set first. It was a mess. Yeah, so you have to clear the set for the mess. Yeah, so I did Barney, I did Prison Break, um, and then I've done a bunch of just regular commercials because that's like how you pay the bills for the day, because theater, you know doesn't sorry, it doesn't obviously yeah, no so don't get your BFA or get it, get it, get it and double major yeah or get another job with it.

Speaker 1

But um here to dash. Stamp out your dreams so, speaking of um shitting, um, uh sorry, I was looking out I'm laughing as well.

Speaker 3

Not only that no, I saw your eyeline did you see?

Speaker 1

okay, because come on in, have some fun. Yeah, I was like it'll be great, we are recording live. Come in, come in I've already talked about you I've already talked about you like this is about kara and sh Shannon.

Speaker 3

Okay, well, this is our show. Get up, get here. Oh my, okay, here we go. What are we doing? Can you do this? Here we go, cast us forever, all of us. Yeah, this is it well.

Speaker 1

I'm sorry, I don't have a job anymore but oh my god, this is the girl.

Speaker 3

why are you here? Because I was doing a TikTok. Bye, alright, bye guys.

Speaker 1

Special guest appearance by Shannon McGrann. Do you know what makes me so happy? As soon as I saw her in the window, I was like I didn't know.

Speaker 3

That's what you saw. I saw your eye line hit something and I didn't know it was not a straight eye.

Speaker 1

That was hilarious. Yeah, you get a two for one y'all this time, so you're welcome um, I was like speaking of shit. I can't wait for her to hear that part she's gonna be like thanks, thanks, um, no, uh. So that's probably my biggest mishap in do not as dfw is that moment. Your biggest mishap was in Mary Poppins yes, it actually happened twice.

Speaker 3

I flew at the end she flies out at the end of act one and one time when I was doing it, there was a hole. No, that's not a hole, what's a hole? I?

Speaker 1

can tell you that much.

Speaker 3

I'm not too it uh, she's had a glass of wine and no food. Um I, there was a knot in the rope.

Speaker 1

Wow, that's different from hole, different from hole.

Speaker 3

See, we have to edit. Now it's time to edit any who's all. So there's a big knot in the road, and that it was. I don't understand how all that kind of thing works, but there were people backstage doing this and then they would release.

Speaker 1

We can't hang out, can we?

Speaker 3

I mean not in front of places where we're supposed to be well behaved, okay. Um, when, no, I don't even know how to tell a story without being dirty. But no kidding, I mean not in front of places where we're supposed to be well-behaved Okay. Now.

Speaker 1

I don't even know how to tell a story without being dirty. Now I'm going to close my eyes and picture it so what were they doing again?

Speaker 3

Okay so backstage, they pulled up and then, once I was up, there was some sort of release.

Speaker 2

But it didn't release.

Speaker 1

I don't know what to do, like I don't know how to not make, but it was good enough. It was good I was not, but it just wouldn't release what I was, just a lot to drink anyway, I'm up above the audience and I just I'm on top.

Speaker 3

I can turn anything sexual I love it Okay, and I just hung there Like I didn't and it was hung, and it was hung and it was well hung. I was well hung and it felt like forever.

Speaker 1

And then they released it. That's when you just got to push your heels to Jesus.

Speaker 3

And then I just shot like a rocket to the stage manager's booth. It was like all of that that was built up just shot me to the stage manager's booth and that has never been told as a filthy story before. Wow, there we go, yeah.

Speaker 1

I now want to start a new segment called Filthy.

Speaker 3

Stories with Kira, where we turn every single story into a filthy story.

DFW Theater Community and Roller Skates

Speaker 1

I can really get it. Yeah, no, yeah, you do. It was a good setup. Thank you, I appreciate that.

Speaker 3

The other one I almost got decapitated. That's not I mean. I guess some people are, but she was giving head. It's really more of like the auto-erotic. It's really more of like the auto-erotic Asphyxiation. So they hooked me into what's this called A harness A harness.

Speaker 1

She was wearing a harness, I was wearing a harness.

Speaker 3

God, there's no way to tell these stories. Okay, they hooked the harness opposite, so it was crossed. So as they raised it it went up to my neck and I had to move my head under so I would flip. But then I went backwards to the stage manager's booth because she had to reverse cowgirl.

Speaker 1

That's it so you learn something new every time you listen to this podcast cheers we're going to release the Dano. Does DFW con? This, okay, involves the harness and Mary Poppins. What would we call that one?

Speaker 2

We're going to release the Deanna Does DFW.

Speaker 1

Comma suit Okay, it involves the harness and Mary Poppins yeah, what would we call that one? Poles and not, on a more lighter note, backing away from sexual conversations Okay, but intense conversations. Something I did want to talk about and bring back up was just that community that you were saying that you have. I mean, we saw Shannon herself right, and how important that is for you.

Speaker 3

I love the women. I mean I love all the women in DFW. But the women in my generation we all audition together all the time, and probably in another market I wouldn't be you also I don't want to say up against, but I can't think of another phrase to use but like Sarah Gay, mary Grimm, like we're not really the same type, but it's a small enough pool in DFW that I see the same women at all auditions Shannon and I all it's all the Collins sisters. Like you know, we're all there together and we really love each other and we really root for each other together and we really love each other and we really root for each other.

Speaker 3

I mean, it is a true admiration for each other and when we go we're like I hope you get it and we mean it. I mean like we, because we know you really need the weeks right now, or you really need the work, or you're going through a hard time, and we respect each other's talent so much and I just kind of I wish everybody had that experience, because we're not carrying cancer like you know, we're just doing skits and the friendships to me are the most important and the support kind of no.

Speaker 1

I think that is so valid and real where? And I've seen it a lot the fact that y'all are all so close, whereas I feel in other areas it is more cutthroat, right yeah, and it's a bit more.

Speaker 3

Not very nice yeah.

Speaker 1

Even with some of our younger people here in DFW it can be a little, you know, touch and go and that may just be something.

Speaker 3

As you get older you realize that it's just not all that important. I mean, it's art and we're doing important things, but not if you're going to hurt somebody in the process. And that's my kind of thing across the board. I only want to work with nice people, kind people. So why do you work with Shannon? She's the nicest. Why do you work with yourself? I'm not the nicest, I'm kind, I am. I may not always be nice. You're kind of Kind of, kind of a bitch, kira Kira, kira, kira, kira Kira.

Speaker 1

You need to get some self-awareness because that's who you should play one day, kira, and.

Speaker 3

Xanadu no she roller skates.

Speaker 1

Do you not roller skate?

Speaker 3

I did when I was eight.

Speaker 1

Well, you're going to be really sad about this next segment.

Speaker 3

Do I have to roller skate?

Speaker 1

Yeah, we have a pair of rollerskates, can.

Speaker 3

Shannon hear them? Can Shannon roller skate?

Speaker 1

we're going to find out can you imagine just the two of y'all?

Speaker 3

do you remember when you used to go in the circles?

Speaker 1

no, we don't roller skate with your little skirt on no, I do not roller skate. I can tell you that I tried roller skating when I was younger. I just don't have the equilibrium, do not roller skate. I can tell you that I tried roller skating when I was younger. I just don't have the equilibrium.

Speaker 3

Do you roller blade? Because I could never do. No, no, no, I could get the four going. No, not at all.

Speaker 1

No, to the point that, like I think I was like 13 and I went to one of my little cousin's birthday parties and she was, like, come and roller skate with us. This bitch out with a skate buddy like the little thing 13 years old, and I may have even been older than that and there's still pictures.

Speaker 3

I say, please tell me someone.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, my family still has the photos of me with the skate buddy just like I didn't even know there was a yeah and me telling them like. Can you tighten the wheels?

Speaker 3

because, no of my roller skates. Wouldn't that make them not move?

Speaker 1

yeah, so that you're more just walking out there instead of like so that's my life, okay so we're not doing xanadu is what I'm here. We are not unless we have fake skates or something like Kimberly and Kimbo. What were they really skating? I don't know.

Speaker 3

I didn't get to see it.

Speaker 1

You would also like in like 20 years, you would kill in that role. Yeah, you're still too young for it, cause I think she's supposed to look like 60 or 70.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so I'm 30.

Speaker 1

So like, because that one also. It's very like what did you say?

Speaker 3

I'm 30 there we go.

Speaker 1

I was trying to give you an opportunity to make fun of me, you're not 30, you're 30 plus, you're 30 plus we've had too much wine, obviously, and I had lunch today. It's just no food here. Well, there we go. Um, oh so Kimberly, that like she sings pretty sometimes, but it's also like raw, but it's also like it's also like like she gives you all the emotion and everything that she sings as well, and so like one day like that's what I love you you need to do like if it ever becomes available I, yeah, you need to do it for sure.

Speaker 1

Let's tell jeff and craig, jeff, craig. Come on, kimberly akimbo, let's do it and it it is, um, uh, just close, legitimate to qua friendly.

Speaker 2

Oh, it is Legitiqua friendly.

Speaker 3

Oh, just took me a second.

Speaker 1

Legitiqua. I'm with you now?

Speaker 3

Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it is. It is Legitiqua friendly. So okay, we were. They're telling us shut up.

Speaker 3

They're like do not have this bitch back. She never shuts up. No, no, she doesn't.

Speaker 1

I think every. It's now the Daniel and Kara show. I'm drunk, obviously, because I'm telling her to be on every show. It's whoever can get their legs up. Okay, so where can they follow you, kara? Do you do social media?

Speaker 3

Instagram. I'm so old I mean, yes, I'm in. I'm in the Instagrams.

Speaker 1

She's in the Instagrams.

Speaker 3

She's at Kara, I'm on. I think it's Karastatum2023.

Speaker 1

Follow her there.

Speaker 3

I don't know.

Speaker 1

She might even have a website that we can go Nope she doesn't have a website.

Speaker 3

I think my agency has a website.

Speaker 1

She is with the Mary Collins agency, mary.

Speaker 3

Collins agency. I am the worst self-promoter in all of ever.

Speaker 1

Well, because you don't audition. Yeah, I do I have?

Speaker 3

Facebook. I have a MySpace. I don't.

Speaker 2

You did I used to have a You'd so be in my top eight.

Speaker 1

Oh my God, You'd be in my top eight. Oh, oh my God, you'd be in my top eight too. Oh my God, oh my God.

Speaker 2

No, okay, so we have one more segment.

Speaker 1

But before we go, I'm going to plug our socials so that we can close out this, so please make sure you are following us at DanielDoesDFW, that's, on Instagram, facebook, all the social medias. Hopefully you're watching this on YouTube today so that you can see all the silly faces that Kara has made, and you saw her legs up in the air. That was a great shot. I'm probably going to save it for something. And then you're listening on wherever you get your podcasts, whether it's Apple Podcasts, spotify, google, et cetera all of the above for our audio content. So please make sure you're paying attention, you're following all of the above and you stick around to see our next segment of fun where we play a game together.

Speaker 3

Thank you for joining me today. Kira, Thank you for having me. This is a blast. I had tons of fun and you need to come back.

Speaker 1

So we'll see you. Bye y'all.

Speaker 2

Kira.

Speaker 3

I feel, like I need to get ready. I've got to put my shoe in. Yeah, that's fine, I'm scared.

Speaker 1

We're going to play a very intense game. Okay, okay, it's called Go ahead.

Speaker 2

As it should be. Honestly, Go ahead as it should be.

Speaker 1

So, before we get into the game, though I did want to talk about. So this game is all about roles that kara has played, um, but speaking of roles that you have played, you have a couple shows that are coming up that we didn't get to plug in the original segment. Um, right now you are doing the prom. The prom, yes, which so amazing, so excited.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I love that show so much. Megan kelly bates and I saw it on Broadway and then the movie came out during COVID and so I'm super excited about that. So doing that, and then I'm doing Big Fish at Theater Arlington and then I'm always sure that that's the last time I'm ever going to work again. Like then everyone's going to figure out, I have no idea what I'm doing and I'm going to become a paralegal. Everyone's going to figure out.

Character Quote Guessing Game

Speaker 1

I have no idea what I'm doing and I'm going to become a paralegal. Well, there we go. Yeah, let's get you a paralegal. So what we've done is we've compiled a list of quotes from famous roles that you have played. So I'm going to read off a quote from a character and, off your very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very long resume, you're going to have to select which character. It's not a multiple choice by the way it's not.

Speaker 1

Nope, it's a you're going to have to pull it out of your ass. Oh, okay, all right, I think I'm just. Should I just go in order here, or okay, I really don't think you're the right man for me. You're much too independent and I need someone who needs me desperately, or at least needs my money desperately. I've never heard those words before we're off to a great start.

Speaker 3

I've never heard those words before. Seriously, yes, I mean, I'm not kidding. I have no idea what you're talking about now I'll give you show options.

Speaker 1

How about that?

Speaker 2

Okay.

Speaker 1

Steel Magnolias Next to Norma Normal.

Speaker 2

Norma.

Speaker 1

Glad you took the one because Next to Norma, Part two. Yeah or the sequel, or the Sound of Music.

Speaker 3

Is that in the oh? Is that Elsa in the Sound of Music? Yes, no, but never, never would have.

Speaker 1

You're like I never said those lines.

Speaker 3

Well, I didn't say it, Maybe in the script, but I didn't say it.

Speaker 1

Drink.

Speaker 3

Drink Goodness.

Speaker 1

Okay, all right, here's the next one. Okay, sweetheart, what are you doing in my electricity?

Speaker 3

That's next to Norma. Yes, yes, how did you remember that one? That's next to Norma.

Speaker 1

Yes, how did you remember that?

Speaker 3

one, because I fucked that scene so many times I couldn't ever get the lyrics at top of two, and my castmates were down below, specifically Ian Ferguson, who had glasses on, who would look up at me and laugh because I would biff those lyrics every night. So I think I have some trauma associated that those were the first words I said after I biffed the lyrics.

Speaker 1

It was trauma. There you go. Trauma always helps us. It really does. All right, now let me at that zit.

Speaker 3

Oh, velma von Tessel, there you go.

Speaker 1

From Peer Spray Way to go. And you said you played that twice. We were talking about it earlier. You sang us Little Diddy. Yeah, I feel like that would be just a fun role.

Speaker 3

I want to do it forever, there's like three of those that I just want to do the one in Mamma Mia that sings the slutty song. I played that once Tanya. Yeah, there's like three of those I just like to do in rotation. They have great songs, two scenes.

Speaker 1

She wants to do three in rotation. Taking applications, taking applications.

Speaker 3

Everybody knows, entertainment ain't entertainment unless it takes place on ice. Everybody knows, entertainment ain't entertainment. Unless it takes place on ice, it's Lynn, lynn.

Speaker 1

Yes, when she's talking about the ass.

Speaker 2

Everybody knows yes.

Speaker 1

I love that whole like tickets to ice to make. I think that's such a funny way that that's how she's going to get out.

Speaker 3

It's so ridiculous that that is like the dream that will propel her out of the home, out of her agoraphobia.

Speaker 1

That's why she wants to get out of the house. So bad that honestly made it for me.

Speaker 3

I was like this is how I know.

Speaker 2

I'm going to love the show this is it because the eyes can be.

Speaker 1

You're doing pretty good. You've gotten three back to back.

Speaker 3

This may be the hardest one. That first one was hard.

Speaker 1

I mean, you're used to a hard one, All right. So the sanctuary looks like it's been hosed down by Pepto-Bismol.

Speaker 3

That is still Magnolia's Malin. Yeah, I was hoping you'd know that one. Yeah, I hope I still remember that one.

Speaker 1

Because you have to play it tonight. Can you imagine, imagine if you mess with that one tonight, like it's?

Speaker 2

been hosed down by my lanta.

Speaker 1

It's been really pink. Yeah, you say like the wrong medication, et cetera. What?

Speaker 3

Get her out. She's had enough.

Speaker 1

Goodness. No, hey, I was really proud. You did four out of five of them, correct, is that?

Speaker 3

it, did I get it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 3

That wasn't terrible right, you won the prize, but you also stayed within, like the last year, so thank you.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well, we wanted to make it easy for you so you didn't look stupid.

Speaker 3

Well, that's hard to do. I know and it still didn't work. It is it yeah do you still have to hold up?

Speaker 1

yeah, what is it? I really don't think you're the right man for me. You're much too independent and I need someone who needs me desperately no, that is in the movie it's not in the show. Oh well, that's we flubbed way to go, producer.

Speaker 3

No, no no, no, I didn't mean to call anybody out, I was just saying. I just know that I haven't said those words what words did you say? Is also. I don't know. I just know they weren't those. But I remember watching the movie and thinking you don't say that on stage. So you remember that yeah, but what's my name? I'm sorry you are.

Speaker 2

Exactly.

Speaker 1

No, and then before we completely check out for the day, I was going to say the evening, before we completely check out, I checked out. Before.

Speaker 2

Norman and I go Before Norman and I Before Norman and I Somewhere else.

Speaker 3

You said that you have done other projects as well. Seth Rudetsky and his husband, james, are friends because I did Disaster at Uptown Players. Well, they're more than friends. Well, they're my friends. There we go, they're my friends, they're more than friends, they are married and, um, I did disaster at uptown and then I had known james before because he lived here, and then uh became friendly with them again and uh produced for them during uh covid, when they did stars in the house and they did a vote-a-thon the day of the election, and I worked with Annette Bening and Martin Short and they're on the phone with me, which doesn't make me fancy because I'm the lowest on that totem pole, but it was really fun and it let me know that there's another side of what I like to do in this business.

Speaker 3

So I'm kind of looking at that and so I still help them with some things and then I'm hoping to work with them in the future because seth is he's pretty great, amazing. James is one of my dearest, dearest friends. We're going to try to be on the amazing race together.

Speaker 1

Don't tell lon barrera well, lon, you heard it here first. I'm so sorry you were not selected. This is your pit stop on the amazing race sorry, can you put me on broadway? For real. Did you remember all your words with lawn?

Speaker 3

I'm sorry, who's lawn I love?

Speaker 1

you, I love you long time we need to stop we do. This is the end of the episode so, as much as you want to hear us, continue to talk. This is unfortunately the end of the episode, so thanks again, kara. It's the best time ever, the blast and she drank all of our wine so we're out for the rest of the year, but we'll see you next time. Thank you so much. Bye.